aftermathr
So...im in the market for a blu-ray player...probably a PS3 after the reviews i've read on it...and its versatility as an all in one unit. What can i expect resolution wise on my 720p Panasonic Viera Plasma when vierwing blu-ray? They are always demo-ing blu-ray on 1080p in the stores...so i cannot get a grasp on what i'm going to see on 720p. Am i looking at a big jump up from DVD? I know the frame rates are higher on Blu-ray...but i know true dvd is in 720p. I have my current setup broadcasting 720p over HDMI on a Harman Kardon DVD player and it looks pretty sharp. My TV's model number is TH-42PX80U. Thanks!
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Ordered responses to your query:
-The PS3 is, in fact, one of the most affordable and yet still most versatile units. Highly recommended even if it will ONLY be used for blu-ray playback.
-Resolution depends on your personal preference. Your model supports both 720p and 1080i input resolution - though the native resolution more closely matches 720 pixel for pixel. There should not be a difference.
-I've seen demos of blu-ray on 720 native res LCD televisions for which the quality blows the full 1080 sets out of the water. The picture quality is dependent on more than just the number of pixels. Also, at more than a few feet away your eyes cannot see something that small, anyway - so the difference in sharpness will not be that noticeable.
-On this television (it is a 2008 model), the dynamic contrast is listed as 1,000,000:1 - though you will never ever see that in a motion picture. The native contrast is 30,000:1 - which is significant.
-As far as the jump from DVD - you should see a significant increase in quality even over up-converted DVDs. Dynamic range and color reproduction are much more significant in blu-ray (based on the quality of the transfer). If you are watching something like Commando or Predator - the comparison is not SO different that those not looking for it would see significant difference. However, try a movie like Casino Royale or 3:10 to Yuma and you'll see it even if you're half-blind.
-The frame rates on blu-ray are not higher. In fact, many times they are lower - but usually converted to 60Hz by the television. blu-ray is capable of 24p (fps) playback - which is the same frame-rate as film. The TV will generally convert that to it's native 60Hz by using a 2:3 pulldown method. Displaying one frame twice, then the next 3 times and alternating.
-Also, "true DVD" is not 720p - it's 480p. The native res of a DVD video is always 720x480 MPEG2. If you're getting 720p from your Harmon Kardon then it must be connected via HDMI or component.
Hope at least some of this info is helpful.
Ordered responses to your query:
-The PS3 is, in fact, one of the most affordable and yet still most versatile units. Highly recommended even if it will ONLY be used for blu-ray playback.
-Resolution depends on your personal preference. Your model supports both 720p and 1080i input resolution - though the native resolution more closely matches 720 pixel for pixel. There should not be a difference.
-I've seen demos of blu-ray on 720 native res LCD televisions for which the quality blows the full 1080 sets out of the water. The picture quality is dependent on more than just the number of pixels. Also, at more than a few feet away your eyes cannot see something that small, anyway - so the difference in sharpness will not be that noticeable.
-On this television (it is a 2008 model), the dynamic contrast is listed as 1,000,000:1 - though you will never ever see that in a motion picture. The native contrast is 30,000:1 - which is significant.
-As far as the jump from DVD - you should see a significant increase in quality even over up-converted DVDs. Dynamic range and color reproduction are much more significant in blu-ray (based on the quality of the transfer). If you are watching something like Commando or Predator - the comparison is not SO different that those not looking for it would see significant difference. However, try a movie like Casino Royale or 3:10 to Yuma and you'll see it even if you're half-blind.
-The frame rates on blu-ray are not higher. In fact, many times they are lower - but usually converted to 60Hz by the television. blu-ray is capable of 24p (fps) playback - which is the same frame-rate as film. The TV will generally convert that to it's native 60Hz by using a 2:3 pulldown method. Displaying one frame twice, then the next 3 times and alternating.
-Also, "true DVD" is not 720p - it's 480p. The native res of a DVD video is always 720x480 MPEG2. If you're getting 720p from your Harmon Kardon then it must be connected via HDMI or component.
Hope at least some of this info is helpful.
PS3 Blu-ray 1080i?
Falling Em
Ok, my dad got a PS3 for his birthday, but is returning it because he thinks that the Blu-ray (which is the reason he got it) won't be worth the $400 until he upgrades to 1080p from 1080i. Should he just keep it?
Note that he doesn't care about the games or the internet or even the hard drive. He considers those things extra. Right now I'm talking about whether the Blu-ray is so much different from a DVD at 1080i.
Answer
In regards to your initial question, I don't personally see any reason to return it - even if your TV was a 13-inch black and white set. At least that's one less purchase he would have to make - AGAIN - when he upgrades his display. IMO, yes he should just keep it.
In regards to your additional details, that is the same reason I purchased my PS3. I don't really care about the games, I wanted a blu-ray player and the PS3 is a nice price for a decent player and is noted as the fastest loading player. I bought a Sony standalone player in November and hated it due to the limited features and the fact that it took almost two minutes to load a disc - whereas the PS3 is pretty much instant due to the high-end processor. With the firmware update, it is now a profile 1.1 player. While I did only purchase it for movies, I also download game demos from the PS store and connect wirelessly to my internet connection - which is at least a nice feature if nothing else. Setting up media servers is a nice feature if I want to show someone a picture, watch a vid, or play some music without having to go to the computer to do so. I think after a little time and some experimenting w/ the system, your dad will probably end up enjoying all of the other features, as well. I already plan to purchase a few games and I have been off of the console gaming plateu for quite some time.
As far as the difference between 1080p and 1080i - not very noticeable to MOST people. The true picture quality difference will come from the HDMI 1.3 specification if both the source and the display have it. This means the POTENTIAL (hdmi specifications don't mean that the features included are mandatory) for deep color, x.v.YCC color gamut, high levels of color gradation, and 24p native playback w/o using 2:3 pulldown. THESE features will create a nice picture whether it's 1080i or 1080p.
This brings me to another point made by Miguel - who is correct, though most people would think not and I'm not sure if he even knows why. He says that flat panels are not interlace at all - which is true. They can pick up picture from interlace sources, but they are not interlace in the display. Most flat panels display the picture progressively and scan it diagonally, anyway - so the quality difference on a flat panel is even less noticeable. Just keep in mind that 1080i and 1080p are still both 1080 resolution - the primary difference noticed will be during fast motion - where interlace tends to blur slightly moreso than progressive. Hope this helps.
In regards to your initial question, I don't personally see any reason to return it - even if your TV was a 13-inch black and white set. At least that's one less purchase he would have to make - AGAIN - when he upgrades his display. IMO, yes he should just keep it.
In regards to your additional details, that is the same reason I purchased my PS3. I don't really care about the games, I wanted a blu-ray player and the PS3 is a nice price for a decent player and is noted as the fastest loading player. I bought a Sony standalone player in November and hated it due to the limited features and the fact that it took almost two minutes to load a disc - whereas the PS3 is pretty much instant due to the high-end processor. With the firmware update, it is now a profile 1.1 player. While I did only purchase it for movies, I also download game demos from the PS store and connect wirelessly to my internet connection - which is at least a nice feature if nothing else. Setting up media servers is a nice feature if I want to show someone a picture, watch a vid, or play some music without having to go to the computer to do so. I think after a little time and some experimenting w/ the system, your dad will probably end up enjoying all of the other features, as well. I already plan to purchase a few games and I have been off of the console gaming plateu for quite some time.
As far as the difference between 1080p and 1080i - not very noticeable to MOST people. The true picture quality difference will come from the HDMI 1.3 specification if both the source and the display have it. This means the POTENTIAL (hdmi specifications don't mean that the features included are mandatory) for deep color, x.v.YCC color gamut, high levels of color gradation, and 24p native playback w/o using 2:3 pulldown. THESE features will create a nice picture whether it's 1080i or 1080p.
This brings me to another point made by Miguel - who is correct, though most people would think not and I'm not sure if he even knows why. He says that flat panels are not interlace at all - which is true. They can pick up picture from interlace sources, but they are not interlace in the display. Most flat panels display the picture progressively and scan it diagonally, anyway - so the quality difference on a flat panel is even less noticeable. Just keep in mind that 1080i and 1080p are still both 1080 resolution - the primary difference noticed will be during fast motion - where interlace tends to blur slightly moreso than progressive. Hope this helps.
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